Cecil vs Cloud

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Cloud would destroy cecil.

Why do you say that?

Don't think cecil can handle an omni slash I mean he doesn't have all that much hp compared to what sephiroth can take off in one slash. Sephiroth in the flash back thing in ff7 took 3000 something health with one attack. Cloud = half of sephiroth and omni slash would fuck cecils shit up.

How do you know how much hp Cecil has? lol and Cecil is another with military training and he has the powers of light and Dark

And in gameplay characters can take down 9999 health in one slash lol so the whole sephiroth thing doesnt make a good statement in this case

Cuz I played ff4. Militairy training, you think if someone has militairy training they are some sort of god, that does not compare to clouds raw stregnth, the faggot takes machine guns like they aint shit with no armor, he would wreck cecils ass.

Raw strength is ABSOLUTELY nothing compared to military skill and battle experience and battle smarts and you think just because someone has Raw strength they are a god? because someone can take bullets they are a god? F.Y.I Zack didn't get shot as much as the world thinks and Zack is a better swordsman than Cloud but Cloud yes is stronger than Zack but I think its due to Cloud having better battles and having better chances to develop his powers

Zack is a better swordsman. What I am saying is raw power is a giant aid, you cannot deny this. Cloud may lack skill, but he makes up for it with what skill he does have, his powers, and his immense stregnth. He has enough skill in combination with his power to take cecil squall and zack.

Woah cloud cant take them three at once? He can only take zack the others he would lose too. and Zack is a better swordsman and had the same perks Cloud did so zack could have been alot better than Cloud if he did not die.

Never said cloud could take them three at once, but he can beat all of them in a 1 on 1 fight.

Nah clouds powers come from drugs squalls come from actual skills

Squall has skill cloud has power and ability.

Squall has skill speed agility and his swings obviously have power behind them and squall doesnt have ability?

Most of squalls good moves are grounded, like that thing where he creates some wave of fire or w.e, he has to be on the ground.Only thing he does in the air is surround himself with this red shit that detonates if an opponent comes close, but cloud has meteor rain why the fuck would he need to come close.Cloud has the advantage in the air and on the ground because of his more versatile move set, and he is far stronger than squall so he would overwelm him in sword play as well.With all of his powers he would balance out his lack of skill.

Actually los that wave of fire can be done in mid air too and Squall fought wol and wol fought sephiroth and sephiroths strength is greater than Clouds so you have to put that together also back to cecil saying that he has low hp in game is a pathetic argument considering you think sora is godly but his hp in game is 140 max

I doubt wol has nearly as much stregnth as sephiroth, he beat him using skill and powers. Kingdom hearts calculations do not = ff calculations. If sora was somehow in a ff game he would have much more hp, the games are completely different you cannot compare stats.

Yet you always compare sora and squall overall lol fact is what we see sora as is his limits no upgrades by jumping into another game that he would never get into anyways

I compare based on canon storyline, and scenes shown based on their abilities in the stories.